Grandma Winnie

Grandma Winnie

would have be 96 yesterday 02/24/2011

Born in Linton, Indiana

02/24/1915

Been having an email conversation with a cousin (Paula)

 and have learned some new and interesting things

about grandma I didn't know.

We both agree that it would

have been out of grandma's character
to make things up. I remember her as being
VERY straight forward..

There was the question of her first name, part of the family

was told it was just winnie..

As this marriage license shows,

 her name being  Winifred.  The

last name JUSTUS also verified for me,

the correct spelling when I recieved this.

I had always thought it was JUSTICE.

Now the her first name of Winnie

is shown on my dad's

birth certificate. And that is another story in itself.
 Soooo...

my conclusion is

grandma just liked being known as

WINNIE!!

To date, I am waiting on the arrival of grandma's

SS application to see what the name

will be,

WINIFRED or WINNIE

(more on that later)

grandma was also listed as WINIFRED

on the 1930 Cencus when she along with

two brothers and younger sister were in

the Masonic Home for Orphans.

*note~she and her brothers went by the name

Justis (I instead of U)

and the younger sister

can be found down the list as

Margaret Justice.

Justice is the spelling I had always

thought it to be .

As for her middle name...that will be looked into.

Will be looking to get grandma's Birth Certificate.

This should show if she did or didn't have the

middle name Gaunita (I hope!)

should also be on SS application

I have been informed this is the middle name of grandma,

BUT I have to have the tanglable

proof...*this is important to me

Story has it , Grandma had a bad car acciedent

sometime early 50's..broke her back, wasn't healing

and didn't care for the cold.  She and grandpa were in

Mchigan or Indiana, so they moved to

Yuma, Ariz.

*I remember she and grandpa had

twin beds, and her's had

a wood board under

the mattress.

The accident
 was just around my birth, there is an old envelope

in my baby book which shows the

address from back east.

With grandma having

osteoperosis as well as athritis

I think this would be another

good topic to have input on.

All in all, grandma was a driving force

of the family, forthright , gutsy, straightforward...

but loving and caring to her own..glad to know I was the

first of many of those grandkids!

FGS Voice: In Memoriam: Sandra Hargreaves Luebking

May you rest in peace, God be with your family.

FGS Voice: In Memoriam: Sandra Hargreaves Luebking

BRICK WALL on Parent's Marriage Record is starting to come D O W N !!!

email I recieved from a genealogy look up out in Calif. (thank you Steph)

Hi Debbie
I could not find Patricia Andree and James Sargent on the marriage index for Ventura Co but I did find them on the state index via Vitalsearch. It's a little confusing, though because Vitalsearch states the location of application is county 56 (Ventura) but the local file #27639 is for county 70 (Los Angeles) I always thought it was in Ventura.  This could be possible~will be checking this out in the next few days


I called our local recorders office and apparently this means they applied for the license in Ventura but got married in LA - OR the other way around. She thought your best bet was to request the marriage from LA. OK, question~thought you had to marry in the same county you applied for license?
FOLLOW-UP~ 2/23/11 Have found the possiable record in question, thou sending for it blindly. After several long distant calls to Calif. with no hard fact, but a hint of ...well went ahead to see just what will come of this, now waiting on recieving it in the mail.

(i do so hate the fact that these government record places won't help out more, even when you have all the needed data for the record location...i just want to know if they do have the record before  sending any money to them, which isn't refundable if no record is found!)

The only other information on Vitalsearch is that the groom was age 19 and the bride age 20. Also, it was hard to read the day they married, could be Dec 5 or Dec 6 in 1952. Funny story ~Dad was really 20 years old , his age was fibbed to get into Military back in late 40's / early 50's!  That is another post in itself!


If my memory serves me, dad's age on my Birth Certif. states he was 21 and mom was 22.  So now it is on to Los Angeles to see if I can locate this wayward record of my parent's union.